It is scary indeed !

I have been using F-Spot in Fedora for the past years... Very useful to send photos by email, because it resizes automatically. That makes it convenient, when you send 10 photos at a time !

Right now, on my Mint partition, I am using Picasa (non-free, running under Wine)... I am wondering which one is a "lesser evil" (???)

I do have gThumb installed, but it lacks the "send photo by email" function, which is crucial with the "resizing" option...

-What do you readers use to send photos by email ?

> I am wondering which one is a "lesser evil" (???)

Using a Window application with WINE is a personal choice. It is exactly that: a choice. You can always revert your decision, *and* nobody from any Linux/BSD project (GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Novell, whatever) suggests you to use that application with WINE or to use that application in the first place!

OTOH, with Beagle, Tomboy, F-Spot, etc., MOST OF THE GNOME AND MONO DEVELOPERS AND USERS are *strongly* PUSHING YOU into cluttering your Linux/BSD box with that crap!

> it lacks the "send photo by email" function, which is crucial with the "resizing" option...

Why would I ever need that?!

> -What do you readers use to send photos by email ?

I am using my right hand and an interesting device named "mouse". When I resize a batch of images, I create a new mail message, than I drag and drop the files in the appropriate place of the window. Alternatively, I make a tar.gz and I send it by mail.

All I need is a file browser and an e-mail client.

>I am using my right hand and an interesting device named "mouse". When I resize a batch of images, I create a new mail message, than I drag and drop the files in the appropriate place of the window<

:D

I'll have to practice using that "mouse" device !!!

;D

I wonder how the increasing(?) popularity of all mono-related apps will affect debian packaging. I guess I'll have to first download XFce-CD1 and then start downloading from CD4 onwards to skip all the mono-stuff...

Well, you should be OK with CD1, then you can D/L the packages online, as they will be needed. Do you need the physical CDs?

Had Debian created an official stance on the default inclusion of Mono apps? The less crap installed by default, the better.

>Do you need the physical CDs?

Yah, still do, no connection to the net at home :-)

Luckily downloading ISOs from work isn't a major problem.

"testing" or "stable"? For Etch you can get pre-printed DVDs for a good price :)

>"testing" or "stable"? For Etch you can get pre-printed DVDs for a good price :)

Way ahead of you :-) Stable DVDs are on the shelf.

But for running a newer XFce/kernel/etc. "testing" is needed.

> Stable DVDs are on the shelf.

Well, I also have a 4.0r2 DVD (from the book I won: http://www.eyrolles.com/Accueil/Livre/9782212120622/livre-debian-etch.php).

As for newer packages: I was suggested to use backports.org. It could work, as it worked in times of Sarge, but I don't feel in the mood to mix things up. Plus, it still doesn't have everything backported.

Until I'll clear up the XFCE mess in my head :-), I only have Wolvix on the old laptop; the new laptop is running (just like the desktop) Parsix, which is Debian testing + an even newer kernel + some tools took from Ubuntu and adapted. Except for the few additions and for the kernel, it's using (I'm using) the debian testing repos, and so far it's stable and quite snappy.

This is just terrible. Like you may notice some users just don't care about the risks they get into (literally giving MS a power off switch) when they become dependent on these .net apps. It is clear that Novell and gnome foundation are gonna focus on filling the .net projects with features and asphyxiate the alternatives which will make more users dependent on these apps.

The sad thing is, that nobody does anything about this and that those who oppose these things are treated like FUD spreading people or fanatics, it is actually worrying that common sense has became a bad thing.