Comments on: I still believe this is a victory for Microsoft! http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/ A last espresso before you die (yes, I am cynical) Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:53:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Sandy http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/#comment-1440 Sandy Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:34:01 +0000 http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/?p=3994#comment-1440 LOL, ASP.NET. You do know that the new hotness is ASP.NET MVC, right? Which is actually open source from MS? I don't really think of Alex Graveley as a moron, by the way. Maybe name-calling makes you feel better; I prefer walking my dogs to lift my spirits. ;-) LOL, ASP.NET. You do know that the new hotness is ASP.NET MVC, right? Which is actually open source from MS?

I don't really think of Alex Graveley as a moron, by the way. Maybe name-calling makes you feel better; I prefer walking my dogs to lift my spirits. ;-)

]]> By: Caraibes http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/#comment-1438 Caraibes Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:10:52 +0000 http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/?p=3994#comment-1438 ... If only the Xfce guys would improve Thunar a bit... (I am specially referring to the lack of "connect to server" function, to connect to another PC on a network, via ssh or smb... That said, you guys know RHEL 5.x clones still come without Mono... (it is in the repos, but not installed by default)... … If only the Xfce guys would improve Thunar a bit… (I am specially referring to the lack of "connect to server" function, to connect to another PC on a network, via ssh or smb…

That said, you guys know RHEL 5.x clones still come without Mono… (it is in the repos, but not installed by default)…

]]> By: MicMacMux http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/#comment-1437 MicMacMux Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:19:01 +0000 http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/?p=3994#comment-1437 I know that there is no KDE apps using Mono, but the possibility is there, and anyway, I don't use KDE or GNOME and don't want to start a thousandth war between them. I only hope that KDE users will be able to admit that the fault is not necessarily attributable to GNOME or their developers as the most popular apps using Mono (Banshee, F-spot, Tomboy, etc) have been developed by Novell guys to promote their baby (Mono), and there is no indication that Gnote will not replace Tomboy on a future release of gnome. I know that there is no KDE apps using Mono, but the possibility is there, and anyway, I don't use KDE or GNOME and don't want to start a thousandth war between them.

I only hope that KDE users will be able to admit that the fault is not necessarily attributable to GNOME or their developers as the most popular apps using Mono (Banshee, F-spot, Tomboy, etc) have been developed by Novell guys to promote their baby (Mono), and there is no indication that Gnote will not replace Tomboy on a future release of gnome.

]]> By: woods http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/#comment-1420 woods Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:35:07 +0000 http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/?p=3994#comment-1420 @MicMacMux I have but those have never _seemed_ to generate such furor as similar bindings on Gnome-side (I may be just reading the wrong news/lists/etc.) Ie. on KDE-side they seem to be just another set of bindings in addition to others. Eg. no one seems eager replace Amarok w/ something Mono-derived (as opposed to the debate about RhythmBox vs. Banshee) @MicMacMux

I have but those have never _seemed_ to generate such furor as similar bindings on Gnome-side (I may be just reading the wrong news/lists/etc.) Ie. on KDE-side they seem to be just another set of bindings in addition to others. Eg. no one seems eager replace Amarok w/ something Mono-derived (as opposed to the debate about RhythmBox vs. Banshee)

]]> By: Anshul Jain http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/#comment-1419 Anshul Jain Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:17:49 +0000 http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/?p=3994#comment-1419 MicMacMux, Have you ever heard of a KDE app created using Qyoto and Kimono? They're just bindings and not full blown applications. Hop over to dot.kde.org and/or forums.kde.org and see if you see any references to Mono or any of its Qt bindings. I wiped out GNOME yesterday and put Opensuse 11.0 - KDE 4.3 RC1 (the pre-Intel Graphics Card fiasco version, and thus stable) It looks pretty good, I've used it extensively and loaded my programming language-Labview...ran a couple of massively multithreaded instrumentation apps, browsed using FF3.5, Juk playing on the background and Kmail downloading emails on the background, all of this at the same time. I never ever experienced a slowdown or crash. MicMacMux,
Have you ever heard of a KDE app created using Qyoto and Kimono? They're just bindings and not full blown applications. Hop over to dot.kde.org and/or forums.kde.org and see if you see any references to Mono or any of its Qt bindings.

I wiped out GNOME yesterday and put Opensuse 11.0 - KDE 4.3 RC1 (the pre-Intel Graphics Card fiasco version, and thus stable) It looks pretty good, I've used it extensively and loaded my programming language-Labview…ran a couple of massively multithreaded instrumentation apps, browsed using FF3.5, Juk playing on the background and Kmail downloading emails on the background, all of this at the same time. I never ever experienced a slowdown or crash.

]]> By: opensas http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/#comment-1418 opensas Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:20:01 +0000 http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/?p=3994#comment-1418 yeap, count me too heading straight to kde... fedora here I come!!! yeap, count me too heading straight to kde… fedora here I come!!!

]]> By: Béranger http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/#comment-1421 Béranger Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:12:16 +0000 http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/?p=3994#comment-1421 Oh: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/07/mono_splits/ Oh: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/07/mono_splits/

]]> By: MicMacMux http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/#comment-1417 MicMacMux Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:00:04 +0000 http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/?p=3994#comment-1417 @Anshul Jain and woods Have you ever heard about qyoto and kimono? @Anshul Jain and woods

Have you ever heard about qyoto and kimono?

]]> By: woods http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/#comment-1414 woods Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:04:44 +0000 http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/?p=3994#comment-1414 I think your analysis is spot on. That's what MS has been doing with other parts of FOSS (Apache, PHP), to get them to work better on Windows _platform_. As for Anshul's comment, KDE is indeed starting to look more attractive :-) I think your analysis is spot on. That's what MS has been doing with other parts of FOSS (Apache, PHP), to get them to work better on Windows _platform_.

As for Anshul's comment, KDE is indeed starting to look more attractive :-)

]]> By: Anshul Jain http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/07/07/i-still-believe-this-is-a-victory-for-microsoft/#comment-1404 Anshul Jain Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:49:54 +0000 http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/?p=3994#comment-1404 This is gonna split the GNOME and FOSS community right down the middle, IMO. But there's a bunch of KDE guys smiling at this entire episode. For a M$ disliker like me, I'm jumping ship to KDE 4.3 and gonna dump GNOME forever. This is gonna split the GNOME and FOSS community right down the middle, IMO. But there's a bunch of KDE guys smiling at this entire episode. For a M$ disliker like me, I'm jumping ship to KDE 4.3 and gonna dump GNOME forever.

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